MS. WHELAN: Yes, yes. It was just — it was a burden that I thought that I would just carry with me for forever. It seemed like I would never pay it off.
THE VICE PRESIDENT: And just as a person who experiences that kind of thing, in addition to what you do as a professional, I’m sure that that was an added weight that was lifted from you, to let your father know -
MS. PENDLETON: And then to also be able to have that time and space to be able to take care of your mother, who I understand -